Peter Moody Cleared

jum · March 2016

Has been cleared of Administering Cobalt.

I knew he would worm his way out of this

8->

therealkramer · March 2016

:-O

The_Bull · March 2016

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-03-16/peter-moody-faces-board-over-cobalt-doping-charges/7248772

Wow. Nearly double the threshold and he'll get off with a fine. Just wow

:-O

Arlo · March 2016

Really disappointed with this decision. For authorities to say the drug was not given to improve performance is ludicrous. The ruling for the acceptable level of cobalt has been established for some time. Moody's swab exceeded the level and should receive the appropriate penalty.
I don't think too many people will be surprised at the decision due to the high profile of the trainer and the obvious desire of authorities to lessen the damage to the reputation of Australian racing.
Unfortunately they just make it look like a joke.
May as well throw the rule book away!

G-Mac · March 2016

Laughing stock

RIO · March 2016

That is as bad as it gets for Australian Horse racing. Far worse and far more damaging than having him convicted.

If you have to be a "someone" to get this decision, then racing is in more trouble that the greyhound industry in Queensland.

thefalcon · March 2016

well, oil beef hooked..but I told you months ago that he would get off.

just look at the high profiles, not necessarily in racing who "get off"..high profile tax cheats, p*ssed drivers, assaults etc etc.

the "tax cheats" are on our doorstep.

just the way the world works, boys.

Aquanita · March 2016

The penalty for presenting horses with illegal levels of cobalt will be interesting.

I am not sure that being cleared of deliberate administration will save him completely.

After all how many of those that have been disqualified have been found guilty of deliberate administration as that is almost impossible to prove.

jum · March 2016

He will get a fine @Aquanita

Fastmoney · March 2016

Major differences between the Moody case and the O`Brien and Kavanagh cases, particularly in regard to intent.

From the Moody judgement

"Thus, whilst we are satisfied that the prohibited substance found its
way into Lidari as a result of something occurring within the stables,
we are not comfortably satisfied that Mr Moody administered or caused to
be administered that substance for the purpose of affecting the
performance or behaviour of a horse - in this instance, Lidari - in a
race."

https://cdn.racing.com/~/media/rv/files/rad-board/rad-board-hearing-result-and-reasons---p-moody-20160316.pdf?la=en.

RIO · March 2016

Aquanita said:
The penalty for presenting horses with illegal levels of cobalt will be interesting. I am not sure that being cleared of deliberate administration will save him completely. After all how many of those that have been disqualified have been found guilty of deliberate administration as that is almost impossible to prove.

I thought that also Aquinita......but lets wait and see. I really do wonder why the stipe's charge them with deliberately administering anything to gain an advantage...Unless you have it on video it is very hard to prove...I hope the penalty come swiftly and is very hard.. Otherwise, they are wasting everyone's time

Why isn't the charge allowing a horse to race with "illegal substances in its system" or similar, so that the investigators can prove the case unreservedly.

Anyway, they need to be able to prove the charge before laying it. How do they think they can really prove someone deliberately administered cobalt
.

Arlo · March 2016

How can you prove Moody administered to gain an advantage?
How can he prove he didn't?
He has come up with an excuse however implausible.
Kavanagh and O'Brien both denied knowledge of the administration.
Do I believe any of them?
The facts are all three presented horses with illegal doses and should be punished accordingly.
The big question is what protection do people in this industry who don't want to cheat have?
Under the current authorities I think the answer is - very little.

Fastmoney · March 2016

Arlo said:

Kavanagh and O'Brien both denied knowledge of the administration.

The link to vet Brennan and the exorbitant price they paid for bottles of "vitamins" made it difficult to believe they had no knowledge.

Arlo · March 2016

They obviously had too much money to query the cost of " vitamins".

Fastmoney · March 2016

Arlo said:
They obviously had too much money to query the cost of " vitamins".

And the RADB obviously didn`t believe their denial regarding knowledge of administration.

thefalcon · March 2016

gee rio, you'd be sitting next to madame defarge, cheering as the heads rolled off the guillotine...

RIO · March 2016

the falcon said:
gee rio, you'd be sitting next to madame defarge, cheering as the heads rolled off the guillotine...

too right i would, and not have an ounce of regret for cheering loudly as everyone of them rolled. They also changed the laws to ensure that they could convict the law breakers..And that is what racing needs to do...have laws that they can convict people on.

TheDiva · March 2016

Presented a horse to race with a prohibited substance, caused by his stable staff administering a form of that substance, must get time surely?

jum · March 2016

Agree Diva, But he won't

RIO · March 2016

jum said:
Agree Diva, But he won't

this is my point of view too Jum.....With that many staff in his compound and evidence given - by him - that he isn't hands on and not a very good people person, he has set it up for a fine and a slap on the wrist about better procedures in his stables.....

As a professional work place his Duty of Care to his staff - and clients - seems to have been forgotten...maybe I have just spent too long in dangerous industries. But you cant use poor procedures and not being a good people person, as an excuse for any mishaps in the work places I've been in for over 20years.

Fastmoney · March 2016

https://www.justhorseracing.com.au/news/australian-racing/moody-wants-quick-cobalt-penalty-decision/319381.

jum · March 2016

RIO said:

jum said:
Agree Diva, But he won't

this is my point of view too Jum.....With that many staff in his compound and evidence given - by him - that he isn't hands on and not a very good people person, he has set it up for a fine and a slap on the wrist about better procedures in his stables.....

As a professional work place his Duty of Care to his staff - and clients - seems to have been forgotten...maybe I have just spent too long in dangerous industries. But you cant use poor procedures and not being a good people person, as an excuse for any mishaps in the work places I've been in for over 20years.

Exactly Rio.

If I showed this sort of poor management in my position, with that much disregard to my duty of care. I would be held accountable and not have a job. It is the boss's job to implement systems and procedures and make sure they are followed correctly. Just ask James Hird.

The buck stops with the Man at the top.

Fastmoney · March 2016

12 month suspension, 6 months suspended.

Effectively 6 months, commencing March 24.

Another one back for Spring.

paraletic · March 2016

Another Ollie.............

jum · March 2016

Fastmoney said:
12 month suspension, 6 months suspended.

Effectively 6 months, commencing March 24.

Another one back for Spring.

Got 6 months more than I thought he would get. Still got off lightly

RIO · March 2016

jum said:

Fastmoney said:
12 month suspension, 6 months suspended.

Effectively 6 months, commencing March 24.

Another one back for Spring.
Got 6 months more than I thought he would get. Still got off lightly

Agree, and yes like an Ollie..............but he got suspended and for that I congratulate the powers in control....A soft penalty, but still a penalty and better than what I was expecting.

Fastmoney · March 2016

https://www.racing.com/news/2016-03-17/watch-moody-reacts-to-suspension.

Arlo · March 2016

I find it hard to congratulate the authorities. They have given a light sentence and then halved it.
He has also been allowed to continue training for a very long time since the swab, whereas some trainers are stood down immediately.
He definitely has been given preferential treatment because of his high profile.

RIO · March 2016

Arlo said:
I find it hard to congratulate the authorities. They have given a light sentence and then halved it.
He has also been allowed to continue training for a very long time since the swab, whereas some trainers are stood down immediately.
He definitely has been given preferential treatment because of his high profile.

agree...but the normal response is fine!!!!!!

thefalcon · March 2016

most of his horses will go for a nice winter spell in some lush paddocks, go to top pre-trainers and then come back for the spring.

pete and his missus can spend a few months in the greek islands and/or the italian riviera and come back as fresh as daisies.

RIO · March 2016

Not a chance falc. It'll be business as usual as per Linda Britton. Bet his missus, brother or stable foreman are already fully licensed and in the seat already.

G'day Punter!

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