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  • IntoItIntoIt    659 posts
    Both of David Harrisons , Benito and Pinnici, scratched in the Crawford, because they were inadvertently treated. What a race to stuff up for !
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  • mailman505mailman505    497 posts
    Dungy here is a question for u y does Fred keep putting this guy on clearly the bloke is not silly y do they put him on with his record.
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  • dungydungy    9,278 posts
    mailman505 said:

    Dungy here is a question for u y does Fred keep putting this guy on clearly the bloke is not silly y do they put him on with his record.

    Why not get Ollie for the Cup would be my 1st choice but agree the bloke has been riding avg for a long time is a top 3 chance in the Cup on yesterdays run 
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  • dungydungy    9,278 posts
    mailman505 said:

    Dungy here is a question for u y does Fred keep putting this guy on clearly the bloke is not silly y do they put him on with his record.

    S Parnham 7 winners from 218 rides ouchhhh thats ugly
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  • careycarey    6,424 posts
    a quick check says that before yesterday, his last winner for kersley was on the 29/05/14 at northam on colombard, and there has been 51 losses since.

    most of them are on horses not in the betting though, so it may not tell the story.

    it may be the trainer is not going much chop either, as his recent record is not too hot compared to his overall record.

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  • DamienWyerDamienWyer    7,987 posts
    Are not the success of Trainers, Owners and Jockeys cyclical ?


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  • thefalconthefalcon    20,485 posts
    just like the economy, Damien.... :-?
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  • LeglessLegless    5,108 posts
    dungy said:

    Ridersonthestorm33 said:

    Pike all class 5 wins 1 second 1 third 1 unplaced . He maybe on the best horses a lot of the times but he is poetry in motion. It's exciting for Perth Racing to have such an elite sportsman.

    Mate you can have favs all day but end result is they still have to win ,Peters / Williams /Durrant /Pike

    :-? Spot the common denominator?
    How many Saturday winners have Williams, Durrant & Pike had without Peters?
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  • thefalconthefalcon    20,485 posts
    you can't put Williams and Pike in that equation, legless, as they are both tied almost exclusively to peters.

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  • grandstandjockeysgrandstandjockeys    279 posts
    Can we have a cleaner to Isle 5 DUNGY IS WETTING HIMSELF
    OVER HIS LITTLE. WILLIE :)

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  • LeglessLegless    5,108 posts
    edited December 2014
    the falcon said:

    you can't put Williams and Pike in that equation, legless, as they are both tied almost exclusively to peters.

    and why wouldn't they be - when your'e on a good thing as they say - stick to it $-)

    Query is - are they as good as the stats suggest  or are they simply preparing/riding horses that are panels above the competition in ability ?
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  • DamienWyerDamienWyer    7,987 posts
    We should celebrate it for what it is and not read anything else into their success.

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  • IntoItIntoIt    659 posts

    Bob Peters doesnt do much for the  WA breeding scene does he. MM must wish he would dry up and blow away! Wonder how he would go if he just bred to WA stallions. He really does lift the bar here.........without his horses his trainers come back to the pack.

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  • LeglessLegless    5,108 posts
    edited December 2014
    :-? What is IT?
    Are the horses so much better than the competition I.E BP breeds better stock than anyone else here in WA can breed or purchase, or are they being prepared and/or ridden much better than the horses they are competing against?
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  • IntoItIntoIt    659 posts
    Superior breeding and very astute operator........learns from mistakes, and successes and acts accordingly. H as nothing to hide as he auctions of regularly, giving us plebs the opportunity to buy his stuff. But buyer beware........

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  • IntoItIntoIt    659 posts
    And likes to be the big fish, and why not, WA offers pretty good prize money!

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  • careycarey    6,424 posts
    Legless said:

    :-? What is IT?

    vanilla essensce?

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  • DarkhorseDarkhorse    666 posts
    carey said:

    Legless said:

    :-? What is IT?

    vanilla essensce?
    No flies on you Carey

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  • therealkramertherealkramer    8,008 posts
    ICE said:

    therealkramer said:

    How did Longma produce that after last start? Blinkers on, maybe but check the brands. I'm not sure it is the same horse :O

    Always back up champ and win
    B-)

    I thought it was a wet tracker. All its best runs here in Sydney were on rain affected going.
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  • PandoraPandora    225 posts
    Fourwhitesocks said:

    Legless said:

    dungy said:

    Ridersonthestorm33 said:

    Pike all class 5 wins 1 second 1 third 1 unplaced . He maybe on the best horses a lot of the times but he is poetry in motion. It's exciting for Perth Racing to have such an elite sportsman.

    Mate you can have favs all day but end result is they still have to win ,Peters / Williams /Durrant /Pike

    :-? Spot the common denominator?
    How many Saturday winners have Williams, Durrant & Pike had without Peters?
    Grant only trains for BP... But the way Adam is going at the moment he would be absolutely rooted without BP. Horses are going very average.

    Trains for others

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  • PandoraPandora    225 posts
    Into It said:

    And likes to be the big fish, and why not, WA offers pretty good prize money!

    Has tried many in the East and they don't measure up

    Very astute, sharp and deserves his success

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  • therealkramertherealkramer    8,008 posts
    Real Charm & Disposition are both by Reset. How many more progeny of that horse are running in the west? :-?
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  • magoo83magoo83    969 posts
    The real question is how many horses does BP have, if I had that many in work I'd expect to be winning races........ Anyone got a rough guesstimate as to numbers????
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  • BlacksAFakeBlacksAFake    2,379 posts
    If he sends one of these East in the near future,you'd think he would leave them with Durrant or Williams,surely they have proved themselves,hate to see another butcher job like Lords Ransom.
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  • LeglessLegless    5,108 posts
    magoo83 said:

    The real question is how many horses does BP have, if I had that many in work I'd expect to be winning races........ Anyone got a rough guesstimate as to numbers????

    have heard he has in excess of 50 broodies :-??
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  • DamienWyerDamienWyer    7,987 posts
    Reset has a lower than usual fertility rate than other comparable stallions. As a result not many are offered for sale as he is a commercial risk that your mare won't get in foal. But if your mare carries to full term, then his hit rate is enviable.

    I bought one for Sam called Resetgold. She was stakes placed and won three, but placed in many more. I think they are fabulous stock if you can get one.

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  • thefalconthefalcon    20,485 posts
    don't forget lords ransom was getting a bit long in the tooth when he went east....
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  • BlacksAFakeBlacksAFake    2,379 posts
    the falcon said:

    don't forget lords ransom was getting a bit long in the tooth when he went east....

    You must be thinking of a different horse Falc :-?
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  • dungydungy    9,278 posts
    the falcon said:

    don't forget lords ransom was getting a bit long in the tooth when he went east....

    No he wasnt Falc ,after he won the cup he went over reckon he was 5 ,the chesnut Real Love looks a bit like him i reckon if she wins the cup easy and she will they should have a crack at the  Adelaide Cup if  Black  Tycoon can run 2nd this girl has lengths on him
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  • BlacksAFakeBlacksAFake    2,379 posts
    Went over after winning Bunbury Pinjarra cup double 1st time,well before he won Perth Cup
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