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Luckygray heading East

West Australian Racing
DamienWyerDamienWyer    7,987 posts
edited April 2013 West Australian Racing
I'm surprised this hasn't been mentioned earlier. Luckygray is heading to Robert Smerdon in Victoria.
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  • Piston_BrokePiston_Broke    2,047 posts
    Heard Gino was losing him, but didn't know where he was going
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  • SPUDLEYSPUDLEY    1,584 posts
    Makes sense
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  • ChrisChris    5,734 posts
    All the best to him, the transfer to an Eastern states trainer hasn't worked for a WA horse for a long time
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  • TiversTivers    7,720 posts
    Ummmmm, Hay List ?

    And that one the other day that won Listed first up in Canberra was it ?

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  • thefalconthefalcon    20,485 posts
    good stable...mr. moet should go with him, imo.
    nothing against messrs. poletti and durrant.
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  • dungydungy    9,278 posts
    Tivers said:

    Ummmmm, Hay List ?

    And that one the other day that won Listed first up in Canberra was it ?

    Niblick
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  • dungydungy    9,278 posts
    Piston_Broke said:

    Heard Gino was losing him, but didn't know where he was going

    You are the story breaker my mate good work again ,can i ask why on hell did they send it back Perth ???
    If its going to Aquanita
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  • thefalconthefalcon    20,485 posts
    maybe to say ta-ta to his stablemates.....or maybe they had a return ticket and didn't want to waste it.. :))
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  • Raff_2000Raff_2000    802 posts
    Miss Andretti? Although that was a while ago :!!
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  • dungydungy    9,278 posts
    In todays paper the owner said he was in unsuitable races over there nahhhhhh ,and he is looking for 1400m and 1600m so why run in 1200m sprints fair dinkum ,this bloke will win races with an Eastern states trainer i have no doubt no disrespect to Gino but the grey needs to stay there as he doesnt hold condition well so flying him over the country and back will lighten him of to much best of luck Smerdon is a very good trainer

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  • careycarey    6,424 posts
    dungy said:

    Smerdon is a very good trainer

    just as 'good' as his father and uncle were.

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  • Piston_BrokePiston_Broke    2,047 posts
    carey said:

    dungy said:

    Smerdon is a very good trainer

    just as 'good' as his father and uncle were.

    better
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  • careycarey    6,424 posts
    well that would be worrying to any thinking person.
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  • paraleticparaletic    3,750 posts
    i am not sold on the Smerdon appointment
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  • ForelockForelock    88 posts
    Feel for Gino!
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  • dungydungy    9,278 posts
    Forelock said:

    Feel for Gino!

    Thats racing
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  • DamienWyerDamienWyer    7,987 posts
    Good horses change stables all the time though. This move may extend his career as for the most part, Luckygray would have been weighted out of most events in WA with the exception of SWFA.
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  • thefalconthefalcon    20,485 posts
    so will mr. moet....
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  • careycarey    6,424 posts
    Damien Wyer said:

    Good horses change stables all the time though. This move may extend his career as for the most part, Luckygray would have been weighted out of most events in WA with the exception of SWFA.

    this is completely wrong, wrong,wrong.

    there is a maximum topweight in nearly every stakes race hcp in wa, the peters being the only exception i can think of.

    so no matter how often they win 61 is the max they can carry.

    for a very good horse, 61 means they might be thrown in at the weights, and if i was in the business of handicapping there would be NO maximum topweight.


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  • RadmanRadman    1,992 posts
    Rogue_Green said:


    But watch this space, he has another very smart one coming through. Lets just say we may see him sooner rather than later...

    Quiet RG.

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  • DamienWyerDamienWyer    7,987 posts
    The statement might be wrong, but it is the mindset of a lot here.
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  • nortonnorton    2 posts
    edited April 2013
    Hate to state the facts but there is no female owner and no decision on LG's future has been made yet.
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  • RIORIO    14,902 posts
    you know how to kill a good story dont you norton...haha..

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  • Rogue_GreenRogue_Green    294 posts
    norton said:

    Hate to state the facts but there is no female owner and no decision on LG's future has been made yet.

    Hence the "Rumour has it" before the comment. Dont shoot the messenger, the messenger only hears what he hears! Alot of rumours about the greys future, for there to possibly be no change. Hence why ppl are talking becasue it seems inevitable.
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  • Raff_2000Raff_2000    802 posts
    edited April 2013
    carey said:

    Damien Wyer said:

    Good horses change stables all the time though. This move may extend his career as for the most part, Luckygray would have been weighted out of most events in WA with the exception of SWFA.

    this is completely wrong, wrong,wrong.

    there is a maximum topweight in nearly every stakes race hcp in wa, the peters being the only exception i can think of.

    so no matter how often they win 61 is the max they can carry.

    for a very good horse, 61 means they might be thrown in at the weights, and if i was in the business of handicapping there would be NO maximum topweight.


    carey said:

    Damien Wyer said:

    Good horses change stables all the time though. This move may extend his career as for the most part, Luckygray would have been weighted out of most events in WA with the exception of SWFA.

    this is completely wrong, wrong,wrong.

    there is a maximum topweight in nearly every stakes race hcp in wa, the peters being the only exception i can think of.

    so no matter how often they win 61 is the max they can carry.

    for a very good horse, 61 means they might be thrown in at the weights, and if i was in the business of handicapping there would be NO maximum topweight.




    And just to add a bit more fuel to Carey's fire, Luckygray still destroyed his rivals carrying 61 kilos in last years Belmont sprint and he clocked a sub 34 sectional for his final 600m. So if he did (not necessarily does) receive 61 kilos everytime he raced under Handicap conditions then he could still win easily enough although the odds would be against him doing it on a consistent basis. There are a lot more options for him over east though and it'll be interesting to see if Shaun O'donnell continues riding him too :-/
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  • nortonnorton    2 posts
    I am not sure how stating the facts (which might not be as interesting as the rumours) is shooting the messenger. I thought these forums are to dicuss things and gain information for everyones enjoyment. Personally I prefer to go with facts, maybe others like to speculate and that's ok also.

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  • crutch9crutch9    17 posts
    As if they would get O'donnell to ride it if it was racing in Melbourne lol
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  • MRSTATSMRSTATS    2 posts
    edited April 2013
    Luckygray - 12 wins from 20 starts with prize money of $1,820,575.


    Purchase price = $43,000

    WA prize money = $1,740,000 `The highest prize money earned in WA by a WA horse.

    Melbourne prize money = $80,575

    FYI - The current WA Horse Of The Year

    1200m race distance upto WFA in WA 5 starts/ 5 wins

    Change of trainer 2013 = ?????

    :)]

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  • dungydungy    9,278 posts
    Raff_2000 said:

    carey said:

    Damien Wyer said:

    Good horses change stables all the time though. This move may extend his career as for the most part, Luckygray would have been weighted out of most events in WA with the exception of SWFA.

    this is completely wrong, wrong,wrong.

    there is a maximum topweight in nearly every stakes race hcp in wa, the peters being the only exception i can think of.

    so no matter how often they win 61 is the max they can carry.

    for a very good horse, 61 means they might be thrown in at the weights, and if i was in the business of handicapping there would be NO maximum topweight.


    carey said:

    Damien Wyer said:

    Good horses change stables all the time though. This move may extend his career as for the most part, Luckygray would have been weighted out of most events in WA with the exception of SWFA.

    this is completely wrong, wrong,wrong.

    there is a maximum topweight in nearly every stakes race hcp in wa, the peters being the only exception i can think of.

    so no matter how often they win 61 is the max they can carry.

    for a very good horse, 61 means they might be thrown in at the weights, and if i was in the business of handicapping there would be NO maximum topweight.


    And just to add a bit more fuel to Carey's fire, Luckygray still destroyed his rivals carrying 61 kilos in last years Belmont sprint and he clocked a sub 34 sectional for his final 600m. So if he did (not necessarily does) receive 61 kilos everytime he raced under Handicap conditions then he could still win easily enough although the odds would be against him doing it on a consistent basis. There are a lot more options for him over east though and it'll be interesting to see if Shaun O'donnell continues riding him too :-/

    Yehhhhh he is going to Melbourne and SOD has no chance of keeping the ride didnt no if you new but there are some handy jocks in Melb ?? then again after this horses last prep of wanting to run into BC it wouldnt suprise me at all what the connections would do
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  • Raff_2000Raff_2000    802 posts
    edited April 2013
    Oh I am certainly aware of the capabilities of some of the jockeys over east. I suppose its nice to remain loyal to regular race riders but when local talent is available and willing to take the mount (Not many jockeys wouldn't be) then surely you have to go with your head over your heart when it comes down to jockey selection?

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