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Matthew Neilson

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BlacksAFakeBlacksAFake    2,379 posts
Harness & Greyhounds
Thought this bloke was a bit smarter :-?
Arrested for race fixing,obviously greed got the better of him,pity he was one bloke who could drive.
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  • Ridersonthestorm33Ridersonthestorm33    10,942 posts
    edited November 2017
    Terrific freelance driver. One of the best I've seen over there.

    Barton Cockburn ( warned off all tracks for life ) his lawyer stated just last month in court..'everybody's doing it'. Charming.

    Gordon Gecko - 'greed is good'.
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  • MarkovinaMarkovina    3,331 posts
    Silly man - only 35 years of age- if found guilty he will get life

    Similar i reckon to Ben Sarina - whio was once a very good freelance driver and a likeable bloke - however got warned off indefinetly - and i can remember reading the case - he had no education  at all - but he was making decent  money 70k to 80k a year - and then they do so something to take that living way - they must be kicking themselves for being so stupid . And as Graeme Lang consistently said ( he had a farm as well ) he never considered the horses as work - or as Darel Graham recently said ( when he looked like being suspended for a cobalt breach ) - i will just have to out and get a "real job " for a while 
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  • Ridersonthestorm33Ridersonthestorm33    10,942 posts
    edited November 2017
    High profile Queensland Harness racing identity Marshal Dobson was charged on October 31st under anti money laundering - terrorism financing laws when running a fake betting account worth millions.

    Account was allegedly in operation for ten years and over one 16 month period, $1.77 million was moved through it.

    Queensland Pacing - crooked one day - criminal the next. Greedy twats. Think they'll live forever and then take it all with them...counting their beans all the way to the finish line.
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  • BlacksAFakeBlacksAFake    2,379 posts
    Shane Graham and Leonard Cain gone now too :-?
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  • MarkovinaMarkovina    3,331 posts
    Shane Graham is a big name up their - that will rock their industry

    A punter on QLD harness racing would have no confidence in their industry

    Thats whats use to happen in several states in the 60s and 70s - where you basically had to win  - " in turn " and thus the trots were given the Red Hots label

    I can remember Rex Hocking - a very prominent and very good Eastern States  trainer/reinsman of that era - i think he might have won a Miracle Mile with a horse called Reichman - late 60s early 70s

    Anyhow he gave the game away before he hit 40 - and they( the media )  said why did you quit - and he said it was simple - you had to win in turn - and he had a habit of winning out of turn ( trying to win all the time )

    And they said to him - if you keep winning out of turn - your daughter ( he had a daughter who was 9 or 10 at the time  ) - then something will happen to her . As soon as they threatened that - he quit overnight - got  totally out and never came back

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  • BlacksAFakeBlacksAFake    2,379 posts
    Losing confidence Marko.
    Wondering who’s next ?
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  • ChariotsonfireChariotsonfire    3,025 posts
    With the Cobram four case being held in the Shepparton Court industry integrity is again to the forefront.

    Unfortunately some participants will never learn or acknowledge what part they have played in the industry's dwindling appeal to the wider public.

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  • savethegamesavethegame    3,216 posts
    More forklift drivers with experience in narrow gaps have allways said they will destroy  there own industry quicker then the dogooders.....no second chance for race fixers...shame they roll this out
    at inters time.....last year the whips..

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  • curmudgeoncurmudgeon    2,417 posts
    Just to add some balance.....these are accusations and charges only at this point.
    Also....an old mate of mine has always said......the entrance exam for the coppers is the only one he knew of that if you got more than 50% you failed  
    L-)
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  • Ridersonthestorm33Ridersonthestorm33    10,942 posts
    A fellow has written a few articles on Queensland Pacing...he's not critical at all...he's fair dinkum scathing!

    Google Trista Dixon fine , that gets the ball rolling.
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  • troopertrooper    681 posts
    Cant stand the dixons. Watched so many races and noticed so many things with them which smell off. They both disgust me. 
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  • savethegamesavethegame    3,216 posts


    Trooper so right.


    DIXON ;;weasel of the highest order barred punting on queensland harness a long time ago as his been a law unto one self for years....These dummies don't realize people that punt on regular basis  with eyes open
    cringe with replays, opinions, sectional times no more about the opposition  then these clowns try
    to hoodwink. shame its only a handful that are destroying this game roll him down the hill regular punters in tabland  must be protected at all costs
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    trooper said:



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  • ChariotsonfireChariotsonfire    3,025 posts
    Someone else put me onto that site riders.

    Nobody is sacred and some pretty libelous stuff there.

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  • MarkovinaMarkovina    3,331 posts
    There is alot of libelous stuff there allright

    Just on Grant Dixon ( and i havent followed or bet on Qld harness racing for 7 or 8 years - watch a few A/Park and Redcliffe and thats about it ) - but i never thought he has ever been charged for race fixing - im not niave - but he has got a huge stable - so why would he risk it - i think that linked article is a load of rubbish

    I also thought he had suffered from serious illness - which still restricts him a bit

    As for his wife with the incident using her foot - what you have to realize - some horses ( and maybe that horse in question )  having plenty of dirt in the system - some horses you wouldnt enter their box and fill their feed bin while the horse was in the box - otherwise you might not come out

    Mick Mallyon who was a champion jockey - got fined several times for using the butt of the whip on the horses - . The point im making you would have to know the nature of the horse involved

    Any race fixing allegations at the Trots - you have to know what they  are . If they are simply 2 drivers discussing a race ( and maybe on phone tap) and 1 driver says yeah i will hand up the lead - a bit like 1 jockey saying to another - i will ensure good pace - that isnt race fixing - that has been happening for 50 years - and would happen in every state probably every 3rd mth . That is 1000% different to a driver deliberately not trying - and pulling the horse

    However from a legal aspect ( who have no knowledge of racing ) they will beat their drums and call it race fixing


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  • BlacksAFakeBlacksAFake    2,379 posts
    Dixon had a bout of cancer
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  • troopertrooper    681 posts
    trooper said:

    Cant stand the dixons. Watched so many races and noticed so many things with them which smell off. They both disgust me. 


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  • troopertrooper    681 posts
    Nice enquiry going on right now with trista and grant. Grubs
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  • tonytony    2,436 posts
    She has been given 12 months
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  • BlacksAFakeBlacksAFake    2,379 posts
    Should get life slag
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  • Ridersonthestorm33Ridersonthestorm33    10,942 posts
    edited December 2017
    Just one of a few quotes today from broadcaster and racing administrator , also Chairman of the Albion Park Harness Racing Club - David Fowler.

    'From a stakeholders point of view, whether you're a trainer, driver, an owner, a breeder, these are unprecedented times.

    They're low on morale - they don't know who the next person ( arrested ) may be'.

    Disqualified driver Barton Cockburn told the court through his lawyer that 'everybody's doing it' .

    Fowler also said that investment by punters at Redcliffe and Albion Park is hardly at an all time high...now he's not wrong there...the other day at Redcliffe when the field was moving up the win pool on Uni Tab ( that's the whole of Queensland and South Australia combined ) was just on $800.

    Whilst stakeholders morale are as Fowler says at an all time low in Queensland - it shows punters are running a very close second.
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  • BlacksAFakeBlacksAFake    2,379 posts
    Grant Dixon walked out on stewards inquiry yesterday,about one of his drives last month,all his horses scratched yesterday and licence suspended.
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  • savethegamesavethegame    3,216 posts
    BlacksAFake said:

    Grant Dixon walked out on stewards inquiry yesterday,about one of his drives last month,all his horses scratched yesterday and licence suspended.

    Fingers crossed he doesn't ever reappear' On queensland  stewards they will clean up the crooks, they will be surprised how quick punters confidence can be restored, when the punters  no stewards are looking after there investments..and jail time beckons the crooks ....Other growth factors take off,. more pieces of the pie goes   to the grassroots of the industry who have always propered the top up..

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  • curmudgeoncurmudgeon    2,417 posts
    Dixon/Graham... Hall / Bond...Turnbull.....etc etc. All these stables have been aided by rules allowing them to become juggernauts.....quite often they have 3 or more in any particular race. Can someone point out to me how it is possible for these stables NOT to appear to manipulate their tactics for the overall benefit of the stable as opposed to scrutiny of "in race" maneuvers.
    It all boils down to interpretation unless the number of horses in a race from any one stable is restricted to two max.

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  • troopertrooper    681 posts
    About bloody time. They both need to be gone from the sport. Absolute grubs. 
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  • Ridersonthestorm33Ridersonthestorm33    10,942 posts
    edited January 2018
    NSW and Queensland over the years and with NSW stewards accepting bribes...if you gave it to a Hollywood producer and said...could you please make a movie about this..he would say no it's too far fetched!

    People say why do well off people, highly involved and respected in the game do these sort of things ?

    Well why would two incredibly wealthy Waterhouses get involved in the Fine Cotton saga ?

    Because there bloody greedy - that's why.
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  • Ridersonthestorm33Ridersonthestorm33    10,942 posts
    edited January 2018
    That fellow Archie Butterfly doesn't miss them on his 'it's not normal is it' site..no doubt Chariots you've probably read again.

    Goodness gracious he doesn't hold back.
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  • 2lifetimewinners2lifetimewinners    529 posts
    Riders
    I stumbled across that the other week.
    OMG he has a serial hate for the Dixons and now he has G Sugars in his sites.
    Whilst a lot of it seems to be rambling there is some scary truths behind the shouting.
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  • Ridersonthestorm33Ridersonthestorm33    10,942 posts
    Agree and don't think he's any fool...was reading his scathing criticism of David Fowler on protest decisions ( all unrelated to the Queensland saga ) however i agree with Fowler on that one...ouch Archie goes nuts!
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  • MarkovinaMarkovina    3,331 posts
    2lifetimewinners said:

    Riders
    I stumbled across that the other week.
    OMG he has a serial hate for the Dixons and now he has G Sugars in his sites.
    Whilst a lot of it seems to be rambling there is some scary truths behind the shouting.
    What in hell did he say about Greg Sugars - hes  a champion young driver - look at the prices of the winners he gets home - i think he is a terriffic ornament for the sport

    If that bloke is suggesting anything untoward about Greg Sugars - then i think that bloke is totally deluded and totally lost his marbles

     I  did read his previous libellous vitriol - the bloke probably  hasnt got a penny to his  name
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