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Perth Cup History

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  • ManchildManchild    840 posts
    Fran Gammon trained, David Rudland rode
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  • RexRex    406 posts
    Manchild said:

    Fran Gammon trained, David Rudland rode

    Think it was Reg Tucker trained from memory.
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  • RexRex    406 posts
    Rex said:

    Manchild said:

    Fran Gammon trained, David Rudland rode

    Think it was Reg Tucker trained from memory.
    Fran trained Muros to win the cup when she trained from Mt Barker.
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  • dungydungy    9,278 posts
    Ngawyni said:

    Vo_Rogue said:

    Unfortunately the website doesn't have the 1997 winner Time Frame's colours listed.
    Time Frame's owners were G. M. Ward & G. R. Ball. Any thoughts?

    I thought the Smiths owned it as well maybe it was leased
    Time Frame's owners on Cup Day were shown in the book as Mrs Angela Smith & M J Smith.  Colours were purple, white stripes, pink cap, same as today.

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  • Vo_RogueVo_Rogue    36 posts
    On my blog I have R. Tucker as the trainer and D. Rudland as the rider but I have no details of who owned Golden Centre.



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  • NgawyniNgawyni    786 posts
    edited August 2016
    I thought the Smiths owned it as well maybe it was leased

    Not sure. The names G. M. Ward & G R. Ball ring a bell though. I think they may have owned it when it won the Sires Produce for Fred Kersley as a 2 yo.
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  • OhsomodestOhsomodest    67 posts
    There's a photo of Golden Centre's Cup win on the wall in the entry to the Belmont Committee Room - might mention owners. Apparently he beat Reckless!!!

    I see that 1978 cup trophy's for sale with the Horseman's Bookshop. Anyone got $11k to spare? Apparently it's the last one done completely in gold.
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  • thefalconthefalcon    20,485 posts
    I remember d and l rudland being father and son to win the cup.....Lindsay rode allegation for RPE.
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  • dungydungy    9,278 posts
    Rex said:

    Rex said:

    Manchild said:

    Fran Gammon trained, David Rudland rode

    Think it was Reg Tucker trained from memory.
    Fran trained Muros to win the cup when she trained from Mt Barker.



    Didn't Len Morton train Muros ?? Do it win a Brisbane Cup
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  • Vo_RogueVo_Rogue    36 posts
    I have F M Gammon as Muros's trainer for the Perth Cup and on my Brisbane Cup blog page I have L B Morton as trainer. Len Morton also trained Muros when he finished second to Hyperno in the Adelaide Cup.
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  • lamelame    1,757 posts
    edited August 2016
    Ohsomodest said:

    There's a photo of Golden Centre's Cup win on the wall in the entry to the Belmont Committee Room - might mention owners. Apparently he beat Reckless!!!

    I see that 1978 cup trophy's for sale with the Horseman's Bookshop. Anyone got $11k to spare? Apparently it's the last one done completely in gold.

    11k cheaper than trying to win one
    :))

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  • Piston_BrokePiston_Broke    2,047 posts
    R Butcher was the owner, Reg Tucker the Trainer
    By Bernguard from Endwell

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  • Piston_BrokePiston_Broke    2,047 posts
    Ridersonthestorm33 said:

    Keith Mifflin rode a favourite stayer of mine...Farranfore. Ask him his thoughts in the email!! No champion but a real trier Farranfore was.

    was a top class stayer but had shocking legs

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  • Piston_BrokePiston_Broke    2,047 posts
    off the top of my head Melb Cup winners that raced in a Perth Cup

    Baghdad Note, 
    Piping Lane
    Think Big
    Tawriffic
    Rogan Josh
    Arwon
    Blue Spec

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  • Piston_BrokePiston_Broke    2,047 posts
    edited August 2016
    Ohsomodest said:

    There's a photo of Golden Centre's Cup win on the wall in the entry to the Belmont Committee Room - might mention owners. Apparently he beat Reckless!!!

    I see that 1978 cup trophy's for sale with the Horseman's Bookshop. Anyone got $11k to spare? Apparently it's the last one done completely in gold.

    Muros (D Brosnan) ran 2nd to Golden Centre.
    My late father rode Golden Centre in the Cox stakes before the cup, declared it unbeatable in the cup after that run, Jacky Boyle and a heap of stablehands from Ascot got wages that would have lasted months

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  • Ridersonthestorm33Ridersonthestorm33    10,942 posts
    edited August 2016
    How about Reckless..the proceeding 8 months he won the Sydney Cup , Adelaide Cup and Brisbane Cup then runner up in the Melbourne Cup, backs up again in the Perth Cup and runs 3rd. Five runs over the 3200 metres in 8 months for 3 victories and 2 placings. Only horse to have ever won the Sydney Cup, Adelaide Cup and Brisbane Cup in the same year.
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  • Vo_RogueVo_Rogue    36 posts
    Thanks again Piston,
    Is it correct that Rendition's colours (P. Watson) were white, blue checks, white sleeves & cap?




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  • VoodooVoodoo    1,371 posts
    Vo_Rogue said:

    Thanks again Piston,
    Is it correct that Rendition's colours (P. Watson) were white, blue checks, white sleeves & cap?




    They were the colours of Peter Watson.....
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  • Vo_RogueVo_Rogue    36 posts
    Thanks voodoo I've made those changes to my blog.
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  • spinkingspinking    4,001 posts
    When Reckless came over for the cup in 78 ,he stayed at the stables of the turnballs. They used to be behind the old Rowlands  stockfeeds on the highway corner of Carbine street. On the sunday they had a barbecue to which my parents were invited I was only about 12 years old , remember old Tommy Woodcock, and me being told this gentlemanly old fella was the strapper of the great one . everyone was making a fuss over Reckless I reckon no horse in history had more carrots fed to him that day by the wifes and kids that were there

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  • spinkingspinking    4,001 posts
    Just on Reckless but deviating from the post a little ,who could ever forget the legendary picture of Tommy and his horse asleep in his box .Also the kids riding him around before his gallant second in the 1977 Melbourne cup.He was a entire to boot , must have had a great tempmerent

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  • Vo_RogueVo_Rogue    36 posts
    Was a sad end to old Reckless's career when he broke down in the '78 Cup. I remember reading Pat Trotter saying that he felt Reckless falter about 1000m from home and it was only his will to win that kept him going. 
    Some wonderful stories have been written about Tommy & Reckless, a gentleman and a gentle horse.
    Reckless sired quite a few winners at stud too. 

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  • Ridersonthestorm33Ridersonthestorm33    10,942 posts
    Took a pretty good one in Gold And Black with the Cummings polish to beat Reckless in the Melbourne Cup. May have been a bit of a wet Cup that year. Think some bolter ran 3rd!
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  • spinkingspinking    4,001 posts

    Piston in the 1978 Cox stakes Bluey Lambie rode Golden Centre  . Your dad rode Meliador

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  • spinkingspinking    4,001 posts
    Here is some of the international jockeys that rode in the H.G.Bolton international in 1978
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  • Ridersonthestorm33Ridersonthestorm33    10,942 posts
    edited August 2016
    Think the jockeys rode in the flag colours of there country of origin thereby confusing race callers and punters a bit. Was foreign at the time for horses to be carrying the new colours with jockeys racing out of their normal silks. Saddlecloth numbers were a lot smaller then too.

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  • spinkingspinking    4,001 posts
    you are 100% spot on Riders
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  • Ridersonthestorm33Ridersonthestorm33    10,942 posts
    edited August 2016
    Reminds me of great days in the leger..or if my father was lucky to come into free tickets to go 'inside' as he called it.. would mean a change of clothes from t-shirt, shorts and thongs to getting 'dressed up' in long sleeved shirt , trousers and shoes! He was adamant about that. The enclosure or 'inside' was a whole new world..it was 'posh'. Free tickets were like gold. Possibly why I still push for free admission today.
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  • spinkingspinking    4,001 posts
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  • spinkingspinking    4,001 posts
    Interesting to note,Hong Kong jockey Henry Lee rode the first ever winner at SHA TIN
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