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  • careycarey    6,424 posts
    it's a dead heat for mine, even if the judge could find a minuscule margin.

    meeres asked to see the photo, so he must have been happy?
    unless he was not happy, and they choose not to inform the public via their report that he wasn't.
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  • LeglessLegless    5,108 posts
    edited July 2014
    Unfortunately both horses noses line up with the brown strips in the photo making it impossible (on the program I'm using anyway) to accurately pick the tip of each nose
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  • careycarey    6,424 posts
    well, i can see that the judge is right, does not change the fact i reckon it should have been a dh though.

    actually they should include the mirror image, and that would make is easier to see, but would also make it easier to see if the alignment is incorrect.

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  • thefalconthefalcon    20,485 posts
    if that ain't a dh..nothing is.
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  • OntoitOntoit    9 posts
    Gee the owners of the second horse must be gutted
    DH surely ?
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  • MeatheadMeathead    130 posts
    Can see green between Smartys nose and the line. Tiny margin but it is there. Can't just call it a dead heat because it's close!
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  • careycarey    6,424 posts
    Meathead said:

    Can see green between Smartys nose and the line. Tiny margin but it is there. Can't just call it a dead heat because it's close!

    i can see a margin too, but still reckon it's should be a dh.
    it would be fine if you KNEW the camera alignment was spot on, but i have seen enough of wa to KNOW that is often not the case.

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  • SHOVHOGSHOVHOG    1,792 posts
    If the alignment is wrong it's wrong for every race isn't it ?
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  • careycarey    6,424 posts
    edited July 2014
    SHOVHOG said:

    If the alignment is wrong it's wrong for every race isn't it ?


    yes.
    i'm not sure, but reckon that periodically they would have to recalibrate or whatever it is they do.
    i would be interested to know who makes sure it is right, and if they can prove it is right?

    one thing i am sure of, is that more often than not, when you can see the
    mirror image of a horse's nose, it does not line up with the other
    image.

    i admit i am not positve if i am correct, but at the same time
    can't see how it can be wrong,...if the alignment was right then a line drawn through the image and its mirror image should be perfectly straight and at right angles to the horizontal.

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  • SHOVHOGSHOVHOG    1,792 posts
    You can't ignore the fact that there was a margin on the line though or else they might as well throw all photos out. I've been watching Belmont races for so long and I can't remember a race where I could watch it a thousand times over and still can't see how the inside didn't at least dead heat. Your probably right that it's been altered but if they paid that a dead heat the ramifications would be huge.
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  • careycarey    6,424 posts
    edited July 2014
    the picture is from hk with the mirror image, that you don't get to see on cris.

    so looking at that and seeing that the lines are straight and 90 degrees to the horizontal, then i would doubt that wa can say with certainty that they have alignment spot on always.
    and that's the reason i don't believe they should cut it too fine.
    they need a margin of error.

    photo taken from the lynx site
    http://www.finishlynx.com/product/software/finishlynx-results-software/




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    1100 x 650 - 324K

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