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  • rocky1rocky1    16 posts
    Damien Wyer said:

    I'm not planning on spending at lot of money at this sale. I have two clients at this point for about 4 to 5 horses in total. I'm really trying to find at a price point of $50,000 for one client who only wants the stock of a particular Stallion (not Encosta De Lago), and the other client under $100,000 if possible.

    Lot 40 would definitely fall into the second category. The mare is too old for one of my clients and he wouldn't buy the yearling, and he is not alone in this thinking. I would have maybe tried to convince him had this yearling been a filly with some future residual, but a colt, soon to be gelding and as it is definately not a Stallion's page, I just don't see my clients being interested.

    Now that is not the case for other people, but it is the case for the ones I represent.

    In terms of breeding, the two halves by Rock of Gibraltar, are incredibly better in scoring terms by comparison. I would regard them as A+ in rating, their scores are so high. But when matched to Encosta De Lago, the score over the damline is only so so. There is nothing particularly wrong with it, but only on two of sixteen occasions does this mating give a score. Whereas the previous matings to Rock of Gibraltar score on all 16 occasions, with nine of those scores off the Richter Scale.  

    I hope that explains my thoughts.


    :-*
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  • DamienWyerDamienWyer    7,987 posts
    Lots of people out today looking at yearlings at Belmont.
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  • DaleDale    1,346 posts
    i like how the online book has estimated time thru the ring. They have lot 202 entering @ 7.22pm 
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  • SPUDLEYSPUDLEY    1,584 posts
    Very interesting day by looks couple of new bloodstock agents buying for WA trainers.
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  • RadmanRadman    1,992 posts
    Who's Julie love? Bought 16 yearlings at the cheaper end of the market.
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  • darkshinesdarkshines    2,837 posts
    Yellow and light blue colours (Fanicio), Simon Foster trains em all. Although I think they have Hans Up who is with Pope?

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  • loose_gooseloose_goose    2,135 posts
    darkshines said:

    Yellow and light blue colours (Fanicio), Simon Foster trains em all. Although I think they have Hans Up who is with Pope?

    And also a stable in Albany where Adam Jolly is the trainer

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  • RadmanRadman    1,992 posts
    Changing the topic, last year there was a Discorsi, half to Baleen in Me sold at MM. Can anyone tell me if it's been named as yet, if so what it is? (I don't have a current Aus stud book membership to look it up)
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  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
    had quite a lot of success this year. Fanicio is one of theirs, but a lot of the stable trained by Simon Foster.
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  • punter23punter23    14 posts
    Lord Baleen
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  • RadmanRadman    1,992 posts
    Cheers punter23, I can keep my eye out for it. Nothing on CRIS as yet.
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  • lamelame    1,757 posts
    Damien Wyer said:

    What budget for Lot 40 ? He won't cost too much.

    $130k not too much?
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  • DaleDale    1,346 posts
    lame said:

    Damien Wyer said:

    What budget for Lot 40 ? He won't cost too much.

    $130k not too much?
    type is everything. trainers will pay 100k for yearlings by nobodys if it is a ripper. horses are judged on type.

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  • DamienWyerDamienWyer    7,987 posts
    Lot 40 was a big Colt, selling in excess of $100,000 wasn't a surprise when the horse was viewed.

    Richard Bayliss is someone I have known for several years. He and his wife Maree are always a load of laughs when we catch up, and I sincerely hope they and their son Mark, have great times with this Colt.
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  • DamienWyerDamienWyer    7,987 posts
    HenleyBrook said:

    if anyone wants to see an absolute cracking yearling... check out Mabel Grace's full brother at the sales. I was out at Rivercrest Stud a few weeks ago and it is an amazing looking animal with a superb temprement. Wish I had the $$$ to buy it!

    I'm glad Steve Hoare did well with his Colt, and I hope Justin Warwick can get him up and running around three years of age.

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  • DamienWyerDamienWyer    7,987 posts
    SPUDLEY said:

    I am not a FP fan but lot 74 looks a likely type but over all good to see Gervase Park seems to have good looking draft.

    He was a cracking specimen. I had a client who expressed an interest in him off the short list I sent him, but I thought $50,000 might see him out. Trevor Andrews fell in love with him and had to go to $100,000. I passed on the client to Trevor and hopefully he can remain with a percentage in this horse.

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  • DamienWyerDamienWyer    7,987 posts
    I purchased well within my budget this year, as I had hoped. My first purchase went for $70,000 from day one, for a Snitzel filly, and $10,000 for a Flying Pegasus filly selected purely on type from day two stock.

    The Snitzel filly has been decided to give her about four months to mature a bit more before going to a breaker. A Trainer hasn't been selected for her at this point. The Flying Pegasus was selected for Eric Wake, with Eric's input in the process. She had the cleanest x-ray's of all the stock I requested viewed over the two days and as a type we both were very happy with her size, conformation and attitude.

    I also tried late into the evening to secure two passed in lots for a another Trainer, but alas at this point we are a few points apart on a deal.




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  • H-BOMBERH-BOMBER    10,567 posts
    Lot 121
    Lot 362

    :-bd
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  • TheFunksterTheFunkster    3,840 posts
    Good luck H with those.
    Interesting buyer of Lot 408.
    Can you own/race horses if you are Warned-Off indefinitely?
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  • RIORIO    14,902 posts

    The obvious answer is yes Funky...but not sure who it is obvious too!!!

    :-\"
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  • TiversTivers    7,720 posts
    edited February 2014
    Sire averages Damo ?
    (Called delegation ;) )
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  • DamienWyerDamienWyer    7,987 posts
    Thank you Tivers.......... give me a half an hour. So as to avoid arguments, I will work on two types of averages.
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  • RIORIO    14,902 posts
    Damien Wyer said:

    So as to avoid arguments, I will work on two types of averages.

    Which will generate discussion instead of arguments.....well it's worth a try Damo!!
    :))
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  • DamienWyerDamienWyer    7,987 posts
    edited February 2014
    Here
    is a breakdown that I did of sales from this year's Perth Magic Millions
    Yearling Sale. It is the total over both book 1 & 2 for all
    Stallions.

    I take no responsibility for the accuracy, whilst all efforts were made to be accurate.

    Stallion Sold Passed Mean Ave Median Ave

    Ad Valorem 3 2 14833 16000
    Alfred Nobel 10 3 17600 13500
    Balmont 1 0 21000 21000
    Bel Esprit 1 0 30000 30000
    Blackfriars 26 4 41192 38750
    Cape North 0 1 PI 30000
    Casino Prince 2 1 34750 34750
    Choisir 9 1 55555 45000
    Commands 0 1 PI 50000
    Congrats 1 0 45000 45000
    Danehill Express 9 5 26666 30000
    Demerit 15 7 21433 15000
    Denman 1 0 120000 120000
    Discorsi 12 5 23041 24250
    Domesday 5 0 32000 32000
    Duke Of Marmalade 1 0 31000 31000
    Dylan Thomas 1 0 7000 7000
    Elvstroem 0 1 PI 8000
    Encosta De Lago 3 1 108333 100000
    Famous Roman 1 0 9000 9000
    Fath 3 0 11666 11000
    Flying Pegasus 9 3 25388 16000
    Flying Spur 2 0 53500 53500
    Foreplay 3 0 22333 30000
    Hala Bek 7 2 22500 20000
    Haradasun 1 0 20000 20000
    Hard Sun 0 2 PI 31500
    Henny Hughes 4 0 15500 6500
    Henry The Navigator 1 0 52500 52500
    Heritage 2 0 24500 24500
    Hichinbrook 1 0 40000 40000
    Husson 3 0 60000 55000
    Husson Lightning 5 1 9500 8000
    Kendel Star 3 0 45666 50000
    Key Business 3 1 23166 22500
    Lonhro 1 0 75000 75000
    Lookin At Lucky 0 1 PI 7000
    Lope De Vega 3 0 50000 45000
    Lucky Unicorn 2 2 14000 14000
    Magic Albert 3 2 40000 50000
    Magnus 2 1 53000 53000
    Medaglia d’Oro 3 0 105000 125000
    Monaco Consul 1 0 40000 40000
    Mossman 0 1 PI 30000
    Murtajill 1 0 32000 32000
    Musket 2 3 49750 49750
    Myboycharlie 2 0 42500 42500
    Nadeem 2 0 28750 28750
    New Approach 2 0 29000 29000
    Not A Single Doubt 4 0 86000 117500
    Onemorenomore 2 0 27750 27750
    Oratorio 17 9 53147 35000
    Patronize 1 0 30000 30000
    Pentire 1 0 75000 75000
    Pitleco 1 0 46000 46000
    Planet Five 14 3 35428 33500
    Proart 1 0 2000 2000
    Reward For Effort 2 0 48000 48000
    Rothesay 1 0 20000 20000
    Savabeel 1 0 200000 200000
    Saxon 5 0 22600 30000
    Scandal Keeper 5 0 50500 42500
    Shaft 1 0 25000 25000
    Shrewd Rhythm 1 0 20000 20000
    Snitzel 3 0 63333 65000
    So Secret 6 0 15916 11500
    Star Witness 1 0 43000 43000
    Starcraft 1 2 65000 65000
    Startac 1 0 5000 5000
    Stratum 1 0 36000 36000
    Street Boss 1 1 37500 37500
    Street Sense 1 0 45000 45000
    Stryker 2 0 27250 27250
    Teofilo 1 0 82500 82500
    Thewayyouare 0 1 PI 20000
    Time Thief 2 1 22000 22000
    Trade Fair 2 1 15000 15000
    Universal Ruler 5 0 29800 2600
    Viscount 10 1 21150 14250
    Vital Equine 10 4 21600 25000
    Von Costa De Hero 1 1 2500 2500
    Wanted 0 1 PI 60000
    War Chant 27 1 80259 60000
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  • darkshinesdarkshines    2,837 posts
    edited February 2014
    Oratorio median very poor off a $33K fee back then? And considering he just won the MM. Out averaged by Scandal Keeper who is 'apparently' on the nose
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  • TiversTivers    7,720 posts
    Damo
    Sort them in order for us, and with say a 2 / 3 lot sold min ?

    In the interim - without scanning the list - how far ahead is WC ???
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  • RIORIO    14,902 posts

    So what is the best value..maths is my thing but unless you have the price for the serve on the top of your head it is hard to judge

     

    Vital Equine and Planet 5 look good return value, but I am sure there are others that jump off the page?

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  • RIORIO    14,902 posts
    Tivers said:

    Damo

    Sort them in order for us, and with say a 2 / 3 lot sold min ?

    In the interim - without scanning the list - how far ahead is WC ???
    based on who bought the expensive WC wouldn't you not exclude that from the figures????
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  • TiversTivers    7,720 posts
    That's what the "median" column is for

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  • DamienWyerDamienWyer    7,987 posts
    Tivers said:

    Damo

    Sort them in order for us, and with say a 2 / 3 lot sold min ?

    In the interim - without scanning the list - how far ahead is WC ???
    Do you know how long that list took to compile ? Get a piece of paper and sort it out yourself, otherwise I can't do it until late tonight as I have a Tennis evening with my son at Midland, and after the week or so I have had, that is far more appealing. I say this in the kindest way of course.

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