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  • DamienWyerDamienWyer    7,987 posts
    I didn't hear any post race comments, and they are not on replay yet, but did connections of Real Love say they intended to lead today ?
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  • BlacksAFakeBlacksAFake    2,379 posts
    PC said:

    How would she go in the eastern states? The real test is over there? Would she win a Group 1 over there? If not a Group 1 over east then at least a Group 2, Group 3 or Listed race?

    Give credit where credits due,she would beat those crabs over 10 miles
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  • Ridersonthestorm33Ridersonthestorm33    10,942 posts
    Definitely no intention to lead. Pike said 'It is what it is , we now have to make the most of it ' or words to that effect.
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  • DamienWyerDamienWyer    7,987 posts
    Ridersonthestorm33 said:

    Definitely no intention to lead. Pike said 'It is what it is , we now have to make the most of it ' or words to that effect.

    I thought it was an intelligent ride. He would have copped a hiding on places like here had he got beaten.

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  • Thoroly_BreadThoroly_Bread    2,348 posts
    Bob would have lined him up for gelding if he got done on the line :-SS
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  • dungydungy    9,278 posts
    PC said:

    How would she go in the eastern states? The real test is over there? Would she win a Group 1 over there? If not a Group 1 over east then at least a Group 2, Group 3 or Listed race?

    If Black Tycoon got beat a head in an Adelaide Cup well this girl would win untouchded !!!
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  • dungydungy    9,278 posts
    Ridersonthestorm33 said:

    Definitely no intention to lead. Pike said 'It is what it is , we now have to make the most of it ' or words to that effect.

    What great riders do they sum it up
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  • IntoItIntoIt    659 posts
    Simply intelligent........i wish more of it would happen
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  • grandstandjockeysgrandstandjockeys    279 posts
    why wasnt the riding tactics that was changed made puvlic surely a fine is in order
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  • LeglessLegless    5,108 posts
    grandstandjockeys said:

    why wasnt the riding tactics that was changed made puvlic surely a fine is in order

    they weren't changed - he planned to be back - just didnt pan out that way

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  • grandstandjockeysgrandstandjockeys    279 posts
    never lead ever and always sits back certainly changed for sure
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  • thefalconthefalcon    20,485 posts
    gsj, in all your 44 posts you have been negative...give it a break.
    pike summed the situation in a flash..as good jocks do..would you want her back in the field pulling her head off? a lesser jock may have done just that...cos bob/adam said to...pike summed it up.
    I read recently in a biggish race in Sydney Cassidy lead..contrary to instructions but he summed the race up..lead and won.
    that, my friend is why you leg up top riders.
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  • Ridersonthestorm33Ridersonthestorm33    10,942 posts
    edited January 2015
    A lot of punters put their faith in 'speed maps' yes great idea but I've seen too many races where speed maps go out the window after 200 metres... Things happen , tactics like luck can change in an instant. Good guide speed maps but don't ever swear by them.
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  • thefalconthefalcon    20,485 posts
    speed maps are crap....just some new innovation to put a spanner in the works.....a race is summed up after 100m and don't let any computer geek tell you otherwise.
    the ability of some so called jocks to read the unfolding situation is questionable...the good ones do.

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  • Ridersonthestorm33Ridersonthestorm33    10,942 posts
    We know that horses like Barakey , Buffering, Travinator like to go forward and it's not Einstein material knowing that Shining Knight types get back. Spare the computer telling me that , I can get that picture in my head. Then expect the unexpected. :-B

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  • PCPC    2,265 posts
    dungy said:

    PC said:

    How would she go in the eastern states? The real test is over there? Would she win a Group 1 over there? If not a Group 1 over east then at least a Group 2, Group 3 or Listed race?

    If Black Tycoon got beat a head in an Adelaide Cup well this girl would win untouchded !!!
    She still has to see out the trip. What about a Caulfield Cup? Smokey chance?
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  • Ridersonthestorm33Ridersonthestorm33    10,942 posts
    Different ball game the Caulfield Cup , that's the cream of the crop. Good luck.

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  • PCPC    2,265 posts
    I'm just not going to get over excited. She is a star but only in her own back yard. The east is where the test will be. You can all call me anything under the sun, but I'm just not going to get hyped up. Ive seen many WA horses struggle in the east including Perth Cup winners. I'm a proud WA boy and love it when a WA horse does well in the east but nowdays I just like to let things happen. It's a lot tougher in the east and I wish her and the connections well if they do go there.

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  • thefalconthefalcon    20,485 posts
    there are a lot of races besides the CC....only 13 starts, she should go very well...
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  • PCPC    2,265 posts
    But that's the thing, we (not me cos I reserve judgement until they do well in the east) I reckon some of us talk up our WA horses a bit too much and then what happens - they struggle in the east and it happens time and time again. It's just another level in the east. Is Real Love up to it? Time will tell.

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  • Ridersonthestorm33Ridersonthestorm33    10,942 posts
    Can remember in 2001 when WA horse Celestial Show ran 3rd to champion mare Ethereal in the Caulfield Cup. Sneaked into the field as an emergency and nearly caused the biggest boil over seen in a CC. More internationals now though to contend with who are born stayers. It's a race for the best of the best.

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  • thefalconthefalcon    20,485 posts
    rhys McLeod rode?
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  • Ridersonthestorm33Ridersonthestorm33    10,942 posts
    Yes I am sure he did. Have a feeling he rode a long priced place getter in a Melbourne Cup too. Also mistook the laps in a race at Moonee Valley poor bugger. He doesn't need that reminder.
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  • PCPC    2,265 posts
    Celestial Show won a stakes (Group/Listed) race in the east. She won the Naturalism Stakes. Also finished 6th in the Melbourne Cup.
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  • Ridersonthestorm33Ridersonthestorm33    10,942 posts
    And of course he won the Sydney Derby on Ethiopia. That's a good reminder.
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  • PCPC    2,265 posts
    and Ethiopia was a WA horses - makes the win even more special. Was bred in WA.
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  • thefalconthefalcon    20,485 posts
    flucked ONE race...a derby...zilch since then...just a fluke win, PC.
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  • Ridersonthestorm33Ridersonthestorm33    10,942 posts
    I gave Celestial Show no chance she handled the softish tracks well. She was a big price in the Melbourne Cup too. She was probably underrated as a racehorse .
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  • thefalconthefalcon    20,485 posts
    certainly was...mortons??
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  • PCPC    2,265 posts
    edited January 2015
    the falcon said:

    flucked ONE race...a derby...zilch since then...just a fluke win, PC.


    yes you're right, it was a fluke, but its a WA horse and it has an eastern states Group 1 to it's name and no more should be said on that.
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