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WizardWizard    3,611 posts
edited October 2013 East Coast Racing
At the moment I have no idea but believe I will get the winner with a little help from study and my friends on this forum.
Let's hope we get a good Christmas pot.
Cheers.
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  • JordanJordan    1,827 posts
    Just load up Dandino absolute Monty !!!!
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  • hashhash    7,495 posts
    huge run wasn't it, similar to Dunaden's last year, well back and swept wide on the turn and rattled home
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  • PCPC    2,265 posts
    edited October 2013

    Dandino was beaten by 29.5 lengths in the Group 2 Lonsdale Cup on August 20 2011 which is a 3300m race in a 10-horse field. So maybe he can't run the 2-miles or something was amiss that day. 

    But he's well weighted in the Melbourne Cup with 54.5kg so maybe he deserves another go at the trip.

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  • hashhash    7,495 posts
    Aren't they those type of races they dawdle the first 3000m then plod over the finish line with the jockey absolutely flogging the horse
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  • TSSTSS    1,401 posts
    Jet Away looks a good thing.
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  • WizardWizard    3,611 posts
    TSS said:

    Jet Away looks a good thing.

    I was just looking at him.
    I produce agriculture microbe and my company in Indonesia calls the main product TSS. 
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  • PCPC    2,265 posts
    hash said:

    Aren't they those type of races they dawdle the first 3000m then plod over the finish line with the jockey absolutely flogging the horse


    Well in Europe they run their staying races at a good clip. In Australia sometimes it's a dawdle.
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  • PCPC    2,265 posts

    Interesting article. See link below.

     

    http://www.racenet.com.au/news/94365/Dunlop---%27Many-better%27-than-Dandino-in-Melbourne-Cup

     

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  • goosegoose    1,638 posts
    Prefer Jet Away in the Mackinnnon stakes was a huge run but if he doesnt settle better wont be any chance in the cup looks harder than normal this year would nearly be nothing under 10 to 1.
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  • TheFunksterTheFunkster    3,840 posts
    PC said:

    Dandino was beaten by 29.5 lengths in the Group 2 Lonsdale Cup on August 20 2011 which is a 3300m race in a 10-horse field. So maybe he can't run the 2-miles or something was amiss that day. 

    But he's well weighted in the Melbourne Cup with 54.5kg so maybe he deserves another go at the trip.

    So what has a race from 26 months ago got to do with anything?
    Did he suffer cardiac arythmia of choke down or have a virus or get kicked before the race or step in a divot and wrench a joint?
    It is absurd to even contemplate a race from that long ago.
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  • BlacksAFakeBlacksAFake    2,379 posts
    You'd think Hawkspur would be running on

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  • Buddy23Buddy23    127 posts
    PC said:


    Interesting article. See link below.

     

    http://www.racenet.com.au/news/94365/Dunlop---%27Many-better%27-than-Dandino-in-Melbourne-Cup

     

    They said that media puzzle didn't hold a candle to vinnie roe either and he beat him hands down twice. In saying that, dandino's form suggests he wont run the 2 miles in group 1 company. fioriente and mount athos are the horses to beat.
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  • WizardWizard    3,611 posts
    Buddy23 said:

    PC said:


    Interesting article. See link below.

     

    http://www.racenet.com.au/news/94365/Dunlop---%27Many-better%27-than-Dandino-in-Melbourne-Cup

     

    They said that media puzzle didn't hold a candle to vinnie roe either and he beat him hands down twice. In saying that, dandino's form suggests he wont run the 2 miles in group 1 company. fioriente and mount athos are the horses to beat.
    I had Mount Athos last year and he got knocked and blocked. He hasn't done anything good this year so far.
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  • therealkramertherealkramer    8,008 posts
    Blacks A Fake said:

    You'd think Hawkspur would be running on


    Yeah I refuse to dimiss his chances on that run alone. He should have tried to lead on saturday, but Waller had multiple runners so maybe he thought he had all bases covered? It was similar to Maybe's CC run in '03 before she won her first cup. He's in the mix, for mine even if the Geelong Cup & Cox Plate have been better lead up races in recent times.
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  • PCPC    2,265 posts
    Buddy23 said:

    PC said:


    Interesting article. See link below.

     

    http://www.racenet.com.au/news/94365/Dunlop---%27Many-better%27-than-Dandino-in-Melbourne-Cup

     

    They said that media puzzle didn't hold a candle to vinnie roe either and he beat him hands down twice. In saying that, dandino's form suggests he wont run the 2 miles in group 1 company. fioriente and mount athos are the horses to beat.

    At set weights Vinnie Roe was the better horse but Media Puzzle had the better weight and won well.
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  • WizardWizard    3,611 posts
    I believe Mount Athos is the one! :-$
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  • lamelame    1,757 posts
    heading over this year haven't had a winner since Efficient and Subzero berfore that so any sugestions or pm's would be very helpful ;)
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  • VorgtrafficVorgtraffic    1,755 posts
    Dont know anything about the imports but i really like how fawkner is going
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  • TheFunksterTheFunkster    3,840 posts
    lame said:

    heading over this year haven't had a winner since Efficient and Subzero berfore that so any sugestions or pm's would be very helpful ;)

    The 2 V's; Varema and Voleuse De Coeurs
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  • theketaminekidtheketaminekid    479 posts
    wonder where sea moon is going to run as his lead up to cup??
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  • tonytony    2,436 posts



    23 Oct




    Sea Moon will now tackle the
    Lexus on Saturday week instead of the MacKinnon. Too weight capped at
    60kgs. Looks ideal race on to Melb Cup.

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  • WizardWizard    3,611 posts
    lame said:

    heading over this year haven't had a winner since Efficient and Subzero berfore that so any sugestions or pm's would be very helpful ;)

    Mount Athos has a RPR of 120 which is enough to give it a big show.
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  • octaviusoctavius    2,290 posts
    Wizard said:

    lame said:

    heading over this year haven't had a winner since Efficient and Subzero berfore that so any sugestions or pm's would be very helpful ;)

    Mount Athos has a RPR of 120 which is enough to give it a big show.



    You are not very clever for a supposed wizard are you?

    Q. What does Subzero, Efficient and PDL all have in common?

    A. They are all horses.


     

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  • SPUDLEYSPUDLEY    1,584 posts

    I do like Mount Athos as well big run last year and of the locals after the Cox Plate Fiorente and Seville.

    The answer to the above question should be they are all grey horses.

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  • WizardWizard    3,611 posts
    Saville is fresh and can do the trip.
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  • therealkramertherealkramer    8,008 posts
    edited October 2013
    I still think Hawkspur is in this race up to his ears. Waller knows how to get a horse ready for a race. Three of his four runners yesterday, Catkins(winner), Sacred Falls(3rd) & Forteller(4th in the Cox Plate), were outstanding and the fourth, imported galloer, Opinion will improve in time. I will be having a bet on Hawkspur(even if it's just a saver) regardless of what happens in the next week, and will include in multiples.
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  • WizardWizard    3,611 posts
    The more I look at it the more I like Mount Athos. Now we have to wait for the barrier draw.

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  • rickrick    487 posts

    A new foreign star for Gai

    By Mike Hedge

    Eyes are pressed to binoculars, ear to iphone and the focus of both is a horse and rider 800 metres away.

    "He loves that half-pace work," says Gai Waterhouse into the phone.

    "Perhaps we should give him some more of it."

    Waterhouse is in the grandstand at Werribee racecourse watching her latest Melbourne Cup import Tres Blue and talking to his rider Ryan Prendergast on the other side of the track.

    Tres Blue, a young horse and veteran of only 10 starts, is being trained for the Melbourne Cup, but for him it might feel more like indoctrination.

    "How many laps have you done," Waterhouse asks Prendergast.

    "Two cantering and one half pace? Good, how about another."

    Waterhouse is pleased with her purchase of a horse who follows the one she bought last year, English galloper Fiorente, and she's hoping he can do half as a well.

    At his first start for Waterhouse Fiorente finished second in the 2012 Melbourne Cup and is favourite this year.

    Tres Blue is a different sort of horse, but he's getting the same treatment from a trainer who is set to have as many as four runners in the big one at Flemington on Tuesday week.

    "If he has fun here in his training he'll come out in this Cup and run a cracker," his new trainer says.

    "That's all I want him to do, just to have fun."

    But you have to think this might not be the sort of fun Tres Blue used to have back in France.

    Tres Blue, who is four years old here but only three in France, has won four races in his short career, including a last start victory in a Group Two race at Deauville in August in which he beat the outstanding galloper Cirrus Des Aigles.

    Unfortunately for him, he came to Waterhouse with a report card that said he could be a bit tricky.

    "I got a tip that he could do a few quirky things," Waterhouse said.

    "So I thought, `I'll give him quirky'."

    Rather than put a regular track rider on Tres Blue, Waterhouse brought her horse breaker Ryan Prendergast to Werribee to get the horse into line before his race jockey Tommy Berry takes over this week.

    Prendergast has duly given Tres Blue some work.

    Seven kilometres on Sunday, four last Friday, and a few more the previous Wednesday.

    After the latest piece of "de-quirking", Waterhouse bounces down to the fence to debrief Prendergast face-to-face.

    "He's doing it easily," Prendergast tells her.

    "And he sleeps well."

    Berry arrives in Melbourne on Sunday and will begin his work with Tres Blue on Monday.

    "Tommy'll know him intimately by the day of the race," Waterhouse said.

    The process that chose Berry for the ride ahead of experienced and accomplished jockeys such as Glyn Schofield is another example of the process that has won Waterhouse seven Sydney training championships and made her one of Australia's all-time greats.

    "He's my stable rider and if he wasn't riding for me he'd be riding for Lloyd Williams," she said.

    "And I don't want him riding against us."

    Berry, she explained, also knows how she likes her horses ridden and understands the team ethos she invokes.

    "And he's young," she said.

    "Look at who won the Caulfield Cup, Nick Hall. Who wins the Cox Plate yesterday, Chad Schofield.

    "Youth."

    Happy to have discovered the new secret of success, Waterhouse turns again to her horse.

    "Maybe just once more around thanks Ryan."

    © Australian Associated Press Pty Limited (AAP) 2013

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  • CarlosaCarlosa    1,287 posts
    The Panther!
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  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts

    International contender breaks leg

    Mike Hedge, AAPOctober 28, 2013, 8:51 am

    The French galloper Trevieres has fractured a canon bone during trackwork at Werribee on Monday, ruling him out for the spring.

    Trevieres had completed his morning exercise, cantering for 1200m at Werribee racecourse where he's been stabled for the past three weeks.

    As he walked back to the quarantine barn his handler Stephanie Nigge slipped out of the saddle when she noticed the horse had become lame as he cooled down.

    The damage was later revealed in a scan.

    Trevieres created a big impression in his only Australian start when second in the Group One Toorak Handicap at Caulfield earlier this month.

    His Australian connections had been tossing up whether to run next in Saturday's Mackinnon Stakes or the Emirates Stakes at Flemington a week later.


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